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that is good for israel. that is also good for gaza. >> mark regev, thank you for joining me. >> reporter: my pleasure, sir. >> abdullah is the charlotte motor speedwmo president of the committee. >> reporter: i hope the americans will not go forward with another mistake. the palestine and the palestine question is indivisible, gaza is part of the palestinian people. and the question of the leadership is authentic. the people elected the leader of the palestinian people. but the americans try to divert their attention from the central issue of how to go about making peace in the middle east, and try to concentrate just how to control one party or another, this will be a grave mistake, this service -- a disservice to peace and to the stability of the region. >> so are you personally concerned that all the dealings here appear to have been done directly with hamas, and not with a wider group to include president abbas? >> well, president abbas was not absent from these negotiations. of course, when there is a f
that is good for israel. that is also good for gaza. >> mark regev, thank you for joining me. >> reporter: my pleasure, sir. >> abdullah is the charlotte motor speedwmo president of the committee. >> reporter: i hope the americans will not go forward with another mistake. the palestine and the palestine question is indivisible, gaza is part of the palestinian people. and the question of the leadership is authentic. the people elected the leader of the palestinian people....
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schools, however, still empty in the south of israel. they were all closed for a week. those within 40 kilometers of gaza, in case of rockets. and they're still closed while israel is looking at this cease-fire to see whether indeed it will be enforced. it's not only israel, the egyptian government, the u.s., everyone has invested in keeping the peace. but the peace that has been agreed so far between israel and hamas, is just peace -- let me put it this way, quiet for quiet. a lot still needs to are worked out to make sure that the cease-fire holds, alex. >> okay. martin fletcher, thank you very much, live for us from tel aviv. >>> a stern warning from one of the nation's top ceos, to lawmakers about the fiscal cliff. ceo of goldman sachs says what's in this deal is less important than just getting a deal done. >> going over the fiscal cliff, it will be very bad, hugely negative for the stock market, which is, you know, a source of people's wealth. people will feel poor. if we go over for a short period of time and adjust it, we can repair some of those things. but wha
schools, however, still empty in the south of israel. they were all closed for a week. those within 40 kilometers of gaza, in case of rockets. and they're still closed while israel is looking at this cease-fire to see whether indeed it will be enforced. it's not only israel, the egyptian government, the u.s., everyone has invested in keeping the peace. but the peace that has been agreed so far between israel and hamas, is just peace -- let me put it this way, quiet for quiet. a lot still needs...
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when they attacked israel, israel responded. the governments did not intervene on the side of hamas. that is a major miscalculation on their side and hopefully they will understand not to hurl rockets at israeli cities. gregg: the institute forit are tedious studies in tel aviv says this. we will put it up on the screen for the viewers. eventually it will collapse like every cease-fire. how long will it take for that to happen? a few months or years? the question is do they get them to deter from complying from the cease-fire -- we don't know yet. >> if you write about that, in the end, it turns out to be an endless cycle of escalations and backing off and it starts again. >> let's understand where we are. hamas remains a dangerous terrorist organization. the muslim brotherhood in egypt still condemns israel -- it was made by these talks. but the air of regime clearly, like egypt, wants to consolidate their control of their country. the need to have economic expansion, they need to make sure that they are in control of the milit
when they attacked israel, israel responded. the governments did not intervene on the side of hamas. that is a major miscalculation on their side and hopefully they will understand not to hurl rockets at israeli cities. gregg: the institute forit are tedious studies in tel aviv says this. we will put it up on the screen for the viewers. eventually it will collapse like every cease-fire. how long will it take for that to happen? a few months or years? the question is do they get them to deter...
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. >> reporter: the agreement calls for israel to stop air strikes and hamas to stop rocket attacks. if that holds for 24 hours, they will talk about border contrs on gaza, and promise no more targeting of hamas leaders. israeli ground troops are mobilized, if there are attacks >> now, i realize that there are citizens who expect a harder military action, and we may very well need to do that. but at the present, the right thing for the state of israel is to exhaust this possibility of reaching a long-term cease-fire. >> reporter: aides say president obama left a summit monday night to call on egypt's president morsi. he then took a call from morsi at 2:30 in the morning, calling again while flying home from cambodia monday night. and in separate calls to netanyahu, mr. obama pressured each to accept, while promising more money for iron dome and other missile defense programs clinton sealed the deal, next went to jerusalem and finally cairo. for final talks with egypt's leaders. nbc's jim maceda has more. >> reporter: morsi, the former muslim brotherhood leader has boosted his credibi
. >> reporter: the agreement calls for israel to stop air strikes and hamas to stop rocket attacks. if that holds for 24 hours, they will talk about border contrs on gaza, and promise no more targeting of hamas leaders. israeli ground troops are mobilized, if there are attacks >> now, i realize that there are citizens who expect a harder military action, and we may very well need to do that. but at the present, the right thing for the state of israel is to exhaust this possibility...
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this was something president obama initiated in israel. was there really going to be daylight between israel and president obama? absolutely none. so iran going forward had to think, do i want to take a chance on there being any daylight going forward? it was a test here. incidentally, they thought would egypt advocate the peace treaty over this? it didn't happen. all the things forecast during the campaign were put to a very specific concrete test. and every claim that governor romney made was absolutely shown to be unwarranted. >> okay. i'm supposed to go, but i'm going to give you 15 seconds to respond. >> as of today, richard is correct, but the jewish population supported romney. he must have believed that romney was better, but it is done. the presidential race is over and hopefully the president can broker real peace. real republicans need to stand behind him and hope he's able to do that. >> happy thanksgiving. >>> here at home the american thanksgiving tradition is in full swing. up next, we are live at the macy's thanksgiving day
this was something president obama initiated in israel. was there really going to be daylight between israel and president obama? absolutely none. so iran going forward had to think, do i want to take a chance on there being any daylight going forward? it was a test here. incidentally, they thought would egypt advocate the peace treaty over this? it didn't happen. all the things forecast during the campaign were put to a very specific concrete test. and every claim that governor romney made was...
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a different scene here in israel. there was empty streets, quiet, a sense here there's nothing much to celebrate. the israeli defense minister said this is a cease-fire that he believes will be recognized and enforced but also said, judging by experience, it may not last very long. that's what we have here in israel. skepticism about the cease-fire. great hope it will last. another development this morning, the israelis on the west bank arrested about 55 members of the hamas and other islamic militant organizations in gaza, saying that they represented the terrorist threat and that follows the bus bomb yesterday here in tel aviv. the first bus bomb, first bomb attack in tel aviv in six years. that's a reminder that although israel now has a cease-fire in gaza and everyone's working on maintaining the cease-fire and enforcing it, israel has plenty of other problems, too, it needs to face up with. >> martin fletcher, thank you. >>> back here at home, millions of people hitting the roads, the runways and malls over the n
a different scene here in israel. there was empty streets, quiet, a sense here there's nothing much to celebrate. the israeli defense minister said this is a cease-fire that he believes will be recognized and enforced but also said, judging by experience, it may not last very long. that's what we have here in israel. skepticism about the cease-fire. great hope it will last. another development this morning, the israelis on the west bank arrested about 55 members of the hamas and other islamic...
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hear israel or says documents all. going on israeli territory but how many israelis have been killed how many israelis have been killed sitting here right now how bad is that he said one hundred and twenty palestinians let's have a listen was he being killed in the last week. ok greg go ahead because it's a weekend here on i want to be fair gemma's and doesn't want to hear it is since. ok hamas does not care about how many palestinian civilians are killed because they don't do anything in terms of building infrastructure protect they and their for israel you want to kill israeli as they really are some schoolyards. in why israel cares about civilians. still i mean it's not really been mentioned here gentlemen gentlemen nothing's been mentioned here they did the gaza strip is under siege go ahead i would still like to know which arabic newspaper reflects this absolutely ridiculous distorted version of recent history we are now being served up. secondly. is as are the claims that greg norman is making about how mass some
hear israel or says documents all. going on israeli territory but how many israelis have been killed how many israelis have been killed sitting here right now how bad is that he said one hundred and twenty palestinians let's have a listen was he being killed in the last week. ok greg go ahead because it's a weekend here on i want to be fair gemma's and doesn't want to hear it is since. ok hamas does not care about how many palestinian civilians are killed because they don't do anything in terms...
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they've seen israel forces go into gaza. it's always been the same that several months later they have found rockets raini ining down their heads again. people don't believe it's a long term solution. it's not something where i can see a lot of optimism. people have kept their children inside for the better part of last week because they were afraid to take them out. >> thanks so much. >>> here in the states some people are giving up their traditional thanksgiving holiday to help others in new york and new jersey. they're helping areas hit hard by superstorm sandy. >> you ready to do this thing? >> these volunteers are spending the day lending a hand on staten island. volunteers are treating storm victims to a special having day deal. give me an idea what kind of turn out is expected and how grateful i'm sure people there are. >> reporter: there's a sense of emptiness. here is a bit of hope. this is one of the thanksgiving day meals that was prepared within two groups. the liquid church group got together to help the folks i
they've seen israel forces go into gaza. it's always been the same that several months later they have found rockets raini ining down their heads again. people don't believe it's a long term solution. it's not something where i can see a lot of optimism. people have kept their children inside for the better part of last week because they were afraid to take them out. >> thanks so much. >>> here in the states some people are giving up their traditional thanksgiving holiday to help...
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israel has never had this that kind of nod and a wink from u.s. before in terms. operating this that way, i engine some ways netanyahu comes out ahead. lou: and the idea, that -- were disgust over the last 8 days, whether or not netanyahu would call for a ground operation, in gaza. with urban fighting, which is the most costly form of battle. that was necessarily the default option of the israelis, they have demonstrated through the targeted airstrikes they can effectively, not surgically, but a far more sophisticated audience for what is occurring now. in gaza. particularly after israel took so much fire from hamas, your thoughts on whether or not the next step would be a ground operation or a continuing and intensified airstrike. >> all depends on hamas, inraise has no interest in resuming activities. if hamas, and their allies would decide not to, would decide to take advantage of this the agreement today, for example, the head of hamas, and secretary general of islamic palestinian jihad were holding a press conference not in damascus or in qatar but in quire,
israel has never had this that kind of nod and a wink from u.s. before in terms. operating this that way, i engine some ways netanyahu comes out ahead. lou: and the idea, that -- were disgust over the last 8 days, whether or not netanyahu would call for a ground operation, in gaza. with urban fighting, which is the most costly form of battle. that was necessarily the default option of the israelis, they have demonstrated through the targeted airstrikes they can effectively, not surgically, but...
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and an update on the fragile truth between hamas and israel. >> life in gaza and southern israel appears to be normal. as markets reopen and children play outside for the first time in eight days. and in a telling sign, israelis troops began to pull back from the border with gaza. as many as 40,000 israeli reservists hold up for a possible ground invasion were allowed to return home. >> hamas and thousands of supporters took to the streets of gaza today with its leader, and declaring the recent violence, a victory for the isl islamic militant group. >> and this victory is over and will never come back again. >> despite more than 160 dead and hundreds more injured, palestinians are celebrating, the cease-fire agreement not only calls for an end to the violence, but also, the easing of israel's blockade of gaza and palestinian major demands for the past five years, as the fragile cease-fire continues, israeli leaders are claiming victory even though the jewish state had rockets and six israelis killed including two soldiers. the military says its bombs inflicted serious damage to hamas' le
and an update on the fragile truth between hamas and israel. >> life in gaza and southern israel appears to be normal. as markets reopen and children play outside for the first time in eight days. and in a telling sign, israelis troops began to pull back from the border with gaza. as many as 40,000 israeli reservists hold up for a possible ground invasion were allowed to return home. >> hamas and thousands of supporters took to the streets of gaza today with its leader, and...
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and to their ability to fire rockets into southern israel and to other parts of israel like tel aviv and jerusalem. now, hamas and palestinians took to the street today in gaza celebrating what they say is a huge victory in part because they say just by standing up to israel, that that is a victory in itself. but also because part of the ceasefire agreement has a loosening, an easing of the blockade around gaza s and that is an important issue for hamas and the palestinians in the gaza territory. they really want to be able to have goods and services move into gaza. that has been constrained by this israeli blockade for years now. so the palestinians in gaza really do see as a victory. but whether or not this victory will lead to more sustainable peace is still very much up in the air. over the course of the next two months, the israeli government will have an election in january, so there's no real hope that there will be a longer-term agreement before that election, and after that it is anyone's guess as to what type of an agreement they will have here and will anybody be able to f
and to their ability to fire rockets into southern israel and to other parts of israel like tel aviv and jerusalem. now, hamas and palestinians took to the street today in gaza celebrating what they say is a huge victory in part because they say just by standing up to israel, that that is a victory in itself. but also because part of the ceasefire agreement has a loosening, an easing of the blockade around gaza s and that is an important issue for hamas and the palestinians in the gaza...
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-israel missile defense programs. the bottom line is that is the key here because, as you know, iron dome has been what has been enabling israel to defend itself with all these rockets from gaza raining down. so the promise of even more u.s. aid to grow that system was a big sweetner here to get the prime minister along, trace. >> trace: ed, the president has a complicated relationship with the new egyptian president. >> that's right. president morsey, a member of the muslim brotherhood. there has been lot of weariness about his leadership. bottom line, you will remember a couple of months ago during the campaign, the president said that he wasn't sure if egypt was now an ally. you see secretary clinton was there today though sitting down with president morsey. he has been an important part of getting us to this point. showing some leadership so far though republicans like lindsey graham have trend to cut off u.s. aid to egypt unless he steps up even more. today senator graham, two others republicans said -- put out t
-israel missile defense programs. the bottom line is that is the key here because, as you know, iron dome has been what has been enabling israel to defend itself with all these rockets from gaza raining down. so the promise of even more u.s. aid to grow that system was a big sweetner here to get the prime minister along, trace. >> trace: ed, the president has a complicated relationship with the new egyptian president. >> that's right. president morsey, a member of the muslim...
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we go from there to israel. nbc's martin fletcher is standing by in tel aviv for us. benjamin netanyahu spoke to the media a couple of hours ago. what did he say, martin? >> he said that they were celebrating in gaz a. he said here israel delivered what he called a massive blow against hamas and gaza, destroying much of the military infrastructure, destroying much of their long-range rockets. he said to the israeli people that he believed the truce is lasting for israel at this time. and those are the critical words, at this time. israel is looking with great skepticism at the cease-fire, waiting to see whether rockets resume, if not now, in weeks, months, and hopefully another round will not occur. but that's everybody's expectation. i want to say to what ayman was saying about the declaration of victory in gaza. the path for victory for hamas is very, very low, and the path for victory for israel is very, very high. israel has much higher demands, a complete stop to all rockets firing. >> interesting in the balance you point out there. let me ask you quickly, martin
we go from there to israel. nbc's martin fletcher is standing by in tel aviv for us. benjamin netanyahu spoke to the media a couple of hours ago. what did he say, martin? >> he said that they were celebrating in gaz a. he said here israel delivered what he called a massive blow against hamas and gaza, destroying much of the military infrastructure, destroying much of their long-range rockets. he said to the israeli people that he believed the truce is lasting for israel at this time. and...
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between gaza and israel. and including all of the militant groups inside of gaza not just hamas itself. it will take all of them to stop the rocket fire from coming over and the subsequent air strikes that israel does after it is hit. >> all right, sarah, thank you very much. a permanent solution so hard to envision how that could happen. tens of thousands of israelis were called for duty for that possible ground war. fred planken has been with the israeli forces. are they moving back from the border? >> reporter: erin, the troops are still at the border. we're not seeing the troops move away just yet. certainly we believe they're going to stay there for at least another four or five days because, of course, one of the things that the israelis are doing, especially in the next couple of hours, is they're going to be monitoring whether or not the cease-fire is actually being kept by hamas as well. what we've seen so far is there is smaller violations. one or two rockets have been fired out of gaza. the israeli
between gaza and israel. and including all of the militant groups inside of gaza not just hamas itself. it will take all of them to stop the rocket fire from coming over and the subsequent air strikes that israel does after it is hit. >> all right, sarah, thank you very much. a permanent solution so hard to envision how that could happen. tens of thousands of israelis were called for duty for that possible ground war. fred planken has been with the israeli forces. are they moving back...
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only cloud is what israel might do. absent an israeli attack is most likely iran gets nuclear weapons and very soon. >> greta: that description sort of suggests that americans looks feckless and week and may be no moment if they do go after a nuclear weapon and they see it's an economic hardship in the short run? >> i think they have concluded that despite president obama's rhetoric he is not really serious when he says all options are on the table. i think they have discerned the real administration policy despite its denials they think they can contain and deter a nuclear iran. i think that is delusional policy. in any event it doesn't stop with iran. saudi arabia, egypt and turkey get nuclear weapons as well but from iran's point of view they don't see united states as an obstacle. >> greta: is there any indication that the sanctions are working and i don't mean difficult for the iran people but working in terms of putting the brakes on their nuclear weapons program? >> no. there is no evidence it is put allege brake
only cloud is what israel might do. absent an israeli attack is most likely iran gets nuclear weapons and very soon. >> greta: that description sort of suggests that americans looks feckless and week and may be no moment if they do go after a nuclear weapon and they see it's an economic hardship in the short run? >> i think they have concluded that despite president obama's rhetoric he is not really serious when he says all options are on the table. i think they have discerned the...
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israel. i have to tell you, when you look at the economic apartheid on wall street where the american people are treading on one platform while the zionist regime in control of our country is trading, we are becoming a nation that is completely and utterly occupied. host: that was patrick from pennsylvania. hi, judy. caller: hi. i just want to say that my husband dave and i are very optimistic about the future. we are happy that the president won. our concern -- your last caller was talking about religion and the churches. we don't see why they should be playing a part in our government and big we are concerned about the separation of church and state. we are also concerned about the racial hatred that is going on, especially in florida. that is a concern because we live with that. i think a lot of it stems from fox news and too many people like rush limbaugh. free speech is great but when it goes into hate speech and misinformation, we would like to see maybe the fcc come down harder on orga
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but israel imposed restrictions for a reason. you had this hostile fire into israel. they were shooting rockets into our cities and trying to kill our people. is it really fair to expect that you would have normal trading relations -- >> but if that does stop, would you see a possibility for a two-state solution? a possibility for it? >> look, you're raising other issues. first of all, if the firing stops, israel is willing to move forward with egypt in discussions about easing restrictions that still remain. on your latter question, of course we want a two-state solution. of course we want peace. we understand that peace is the only real solution. and we've called upon the palestinian leadership to start peace talks immediately without any preconditions. unfortunately, we've had problems. they haven't agreed. we hope they'll agree soon. but you must remember, hamas, unfortunately, is the enemy of peace. hamas doesn't want to negotiate. hamas says that any palestinian who negotiates with israel is a trader to the palestinian cause. they have a very, very hard line. if
but israel imposed restrictions for a reason. you had this hostile fire into israel. they were shooting rockets into our cities and trying to kill our people. is it really fair to expect that you would have normal trading relations -- >> but if that does stop, would you see a possibility for a two-state solution? a possibility for it? >> look, you're raising other issues. first of all, if the firing stops, israel is willing to move forward with egypt in discussions about easing...
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and israel. so it's a balancing act to say the least. >> definitely. >>> well, one of the most trying travel days of the year has come and gone, thank goodness for all of you hopefully at your destinations right now. getting from here to there, not easy when you look at these pictures. highways from coast to coast, just backed up for miles. chicago's o'hare airport, socked in by fog for most of the morning. that caused hundreds of cancellations and delays. as if things weren't tough enough already. train travel out of new york's penn station shut down more than an hour at the height of the evening rush. thanks to a switching power failure. >> makes us happy to be here at the desk on the overnights. we are safe here, no traffic in the studio. >> very happy with that. the weather also here is fantastic. a look at your holiday forecast. most of the nation will be enjoying pleasant weather. the rain is finally stopped in the pacific northwest. so seattle and portland will be drying out. chicago and d
and israel. so it's a balancing act to say the least. >> definitely. >>> well, one of the most trying travel days of the year has come and gone, thank goodness for all of you hopefully at your destinations right now. getting from here to there, not easy when you look at these pictures. highways from coast to coast, just backed up for miles. chicago's o'hare airport, socked in by fog for most of the morning. that caused hundreds of cancellations and delays. as if things weren't...